Rambling Incoherency on Raiding
I’ve toyed with the idea of finding a raid group before. It would be great to see the content, experience the lore, puzzle out this shit I’d never checked out before, but there’s that nagging fear…
A lot of my friends and a lot of my blogging friends (and the ones I shamelessly fangirl) are raiders, and I’ve read their frustrations and listened to the same, gaped at the asshats, facepalmed with the tales of epic stupidity, etc. I keep getting told by friends that I’m a good tank/healer/hunter/mage, I’m told my strangers that I’m a good tank/healer, rarely am I told “Good job!” by random people for hitting shit and not getting myself killed.
Then again, all that matters to most are the numbers. Yeah, I may be able to save the healer’s ass by evade-tanking and stunlocking a mob on my 79 Rogue (because the tank’s too stupid to notice the rogue dragging the mob from the healer RIGHT TO HIS SIDE but I digress), but is it recognized? No. Lolaggro. None of my DPS are geared enough to put out the numbers required for most content, and I don’t think I’d be able to get geared quickly enough, nor do I have the experience.
In BC, I was able to run one pre-nerf Kara before nerves kicked in and I turned down the one or two other invites I received from the now-defunct Wolves of the Warchief. Vindicated took me on … one or two post-nerf Kara runs (where my Devilsaur ass-pulled several things and it took us most of the instance to figure out what was happening). After that, a now-dead raiding Alliance had me running VoA and Sarth (no Drakes) on occasion, but scheduling for Naxx sucked so that’s the extent of my raid experience.
Even the Harbingers’ scheduling hasn’t been very good for me.
When I’ve been brave enough to want to hit stuff like Naxx, it’s been my schedule that’s decided to bite me in the ass. When the scheduling has been good and all the stars seemed to align properly, something else would crop up and poof – nope, not going.
Plus, I don’t like the possibility of being yelled at.
In the end, what really keeps me from seriously pursuing any raid experiences are my own fears of failure, of sucking, and my inability to stick to gearing one Godsdamned alt for the purpose of running shit. In all seriousness though, I don’t want to be the person that people go, “Sigh, SHE’S in the run again” over. I guess it wouldn’t matter if I ran with a group as laid back (LOL I KNOW) as I am, that’s willing to teach and isn’t made up of jerks (or if it is, jerks I can get along with) but… feh.
Really, it’s probably for the best. I mean, somebody has to write for the 5-man crowd and it might as well be me. That’s not a bad thing, I love heroics, I love five mans, I love lowbie content.
… Mara, ST and Ulda can go fuck themselves, though.
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By MerKat, February 18, 2010 @ 1:39 pm
/moment of silence for Wolves of the Warchief
I have to say…. yes, and yes… I did and do not like the shift I have seen in a lot of guilds after Wrath came out… it seemed like Kara or maybe just the group of people I ran with were more interested in a ‘jolly good time’ rather than ‘HARD MODE EPIXLOOTZ OMGYOU SUCKZ’
I can say my own guild has become more raider oriented.
I can also say if you do get the urge to check out http://forsaken.guildomatic.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=5b196a09df139d59f5336f6cdcef39d6 on Thorium Brotherhood… they are a very nice group of people and their raids remind me a lot of ‘back in the day’…. and they do public runs… how awesome?
Add to that time, and being an officer where I raid at has caused some unexpected issues.. my job is to keep the drama down which means that if there is drama I KNOW about it in DETAIL… this has also lead to some thoughts about stepping down so I can be one of the mass out there having fun.
Good luck man.. your thoughts coincided with mine by quite a bit.
By admin, February 18, 2010 @ 1:49 pm
Y’know, I know some people in The First and the Forsaken and the guild and peoples seem pretty cool (plus, they don’t have any of the people that have caused me drama over the past two years).
I know what you mean about the drama bits, drama’s what killed the raiding alliance that I was in (two different mindsets trying to work together does not work), so yeah. It’s tough. It’s why I’ve walked away from a couple guilds and why I’m not so out in the RP scene anymore.
If I ever do try raiding it’ll definitely be on a very casual basis.
By MerKat, February 18, 2010 @ 2:23 pm
It is true drama management works in the background of any group of people… but yeah it can get overwhelming and irritating.
I took some time off from RP and what do I see the first time I log into my main ‘OH awesome you are back, we can have RP again…’ /deskface
Make your own bloody RP /goes back to lvling alts… I am enjoying it – it dosen’t require me to interact and my little hermit heart is happy with it for now. I do small 10 mans once every week or two and I’m having fun.
Isn’t that the point?
Fun > Raiding cause you think you have to
By Ceirin, February 21, 2010 @ 6:04 am
This is pretty much exactly why, despite wanting to raid, I still haven’t quite started. I don’t have experience and don’t want to be the new person that everyone’s all “man, do you suck at raiding or WHAT” about. xD;
By Roshanar, February 26, 2010 @ 4:26 am
I totally get what you mean with the “not wanting to be yelled at.” That’s past the point where it’s fun for me, too, and that is what the game is for. Fun.
In my experience, raiding is the most fun when progression is secondary to the fact that you’re getting together with friends to have some fun. When that’s the real goal, messing up doesn’t matter. How much stuff you get doesn’t matter.
That’s the mindset I tried to keep when I used to raid with WotW, and it tended to work out pretty well for me.
Just my two bits!
By Kaphik, March 1, 2010 @ 3:19 pm
Uh, hi! I love teaching people how to raid. Like Rosh says, the point is to have fun, and build a team. WoW grouping is like playing any team sport; people need to work together. I would much rather have a group of people who tell me they don’t know what they are doing, and who are willing to ask questions and learn, than a group of people who THINK they know what they are doing and do not compromise anything.
So, uh, if you guys want to start up a Raiding For Beginner’s froup or something…actually, I’m going to post this.