Oh Lawdy, Loot Debates
Last night there was a debate in the local OOC channel regarding loot in random dungeons, and I am mighty proud to admit that I started it (tongue planted firmly in cheek).
I decided to run a quick random on Dawngarde, my holy paladin, who has no back-up spec but, at her level, still has enough tools to DPS with few issues. I queued as DPS and as a Healer. Lo and behold, I was dropped into ST with a pair of druids, shaman and a hunter. Once the tank realized that one of the Troll bosses (necessary for access to the Prophet) had been forgotten, he dropped, quickly followed by the shaman.
The remaining Resto (or Balance? I don’t know, he was healing and doing very well at it) asked me to tank – but I don’t carry a shield. So he took over tanking while we waited for a proper tank and another DPS or healer.
To re-iterate: My level 49 Paladin on Thorium Brotherhood does not have a secondary spec. I have other more important things to put cash toward, and in the leveling game I am not the only one occasionally DPSing in a healing spec before Outland. Frankly, at that point, I don’t care what your spec is as long as you do your job and you aren’t stupid.
Once I dig up the screenshot of what happened next I’ll post it and name names (especially the druid, because he was awesome and I want more people to acknowledge his awesome), but anywho.
As we ran around destroying shit, another holy pally and a prot warrior zoned in. We finished off that last Troll, dropped down to the next level and ran to finish the Prophet’s room. The warrior was trigger-happy and I occasionally had to stop and toss a Holy Light (with delicious glyphed AoE healing action), but otherwise I happily exorcised/holy shocked/judged/consecrated along. The Prophet wound up getting pulled before all of the trash was finished, the other holy pally died to ghosts, so I healed through what little trash was left (protip: Run from ghosties) and the boss fight. With the boss down, a caster chest dropped, which I rolled on and the other holy pally did not. I rezzed her and we moved on to the next set of bosses.
Fast-forward to the Shade of Eranikus. We were both DPSing through him and tossing the occasional heal, and when he died he dropped a caster shield. I, the Prot warrior and the other holy pally rolled need – and I won.
The other holy pally proceeded to bitch me out and call me a cocksucker for winning her loot, twice, then dropped as the druid and I explained that I’m a healer, too, and in just as much need of those items as she was.
What would she have said if a caster shaman had won the roll, or if the Prot warrior (why she was rolling on a caster shield I’m not sure, but hey, whatever) had won it? I bet they’d be cocksuckers, too.
Nobody ‘owns’ the drops in a dungeon. Just because one is healing does not mean they get all the caster drops, nor does the tank get every piece of plate with stamina on it. Yes, it’s nice when people automatically pass on a piece that can be considered an upgrade for the healer or the tank, but this isn’t always going to happen. DPS need loot, too.
My philosophy is this: If losing a roll on a piece of equipment in WoW is worth nerdraging over for you, it’s time to step away from the computer and visit the outside world. I do not care if the item went to somebody that only heals with their guild or only does DPS once in a pink moon, or if a ninja took it for the vendor value – it’s not worth busting a vein over pixels and the attitudes of people you may never see again.
Chances are, that item will drop again. Chances are, you may see that drop or get something better with emblems.
I have lost a healing upgrade to one of the people that was arguing against those of us who occasionally roll for off-spec loot (and, guess what? I tend to ask first – I’m rarely told ‘no’). That same person has frequently rolled on off-spec loot (why the fuck would that person argue against the concept? I don’t know, head up arse syndrome I guess). I may have said “Aw, darn”, but not once did I ever go off on them for daring to take my loot.
Frankly, that attitude is far more disgusting than any attitude that I cop.
Whether we like it or not, the very nature of dual specs and random dungeons have made how we roll for loot a little different – and really, it’s more the dual spec thing than anything else. Many of us have two specs that we’re trying to gear in our daily dungeon runs, so naturally we’re going to roll on shit that will benefit us. That’s the idea.
How do I handle loot? If I’m running on a tank or healer that has a DPS spec, and a DPS item drops for my DPS spec, I wait to see if anyone rolls need. If someone does roll need, I tend to let it go – unless the group is full of jerks, then I don’t let it go. Hey, I’m not gonna be nice to dickheads, okay? The same goes for running on DPS that have tank or healer specs. If nobody rolls need, I state my intentions – “I’m rolling on this for my off-spec” – and I roll for it.
Last night, I was playing a character whose only spec was one that benefits from spellcaster stats. Should I have passed? No. I have just as much right to roll on those items – which are upgrades – as anybody else that can benefit from them.
And, as far as I’m concerned, so do you. As I say in randoms, “If it’s an upgrade and can benefit you, roll for it. I don’t care!” We should be happy when our fellow WoW players win something shiny and helpful.
The real dicks aren’t those who roll for upgrades against others, but instead are those who get pissed off about losing a roll. That’s it.
